Since Orville K. Bass' last remarks on this subject, we have been inundated with replies on this issue. Would any of you care to comment?
23 comments:
Diamond Dave
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I don't pack. I wish the news would report on the many instances where law abiding citizens saved lives, rebuffed attacks or sent some culprit running because their equalizer convinced the thugs. At one of the national school shootings someone shot or stopped the shooter. Please inform me which one. Reagan said, "Trust, but verify." You can call him to account or persuade a bad guy that the risk is not worth the reward.
I keep loaded guns in my home. If they aren't loaded they are clubs. When I was growing up in Iowa there were loaded guns leaning in the corner by the front porch. Here in Georgia you are allowed to carry loaded guns in your vehicle. I have a .357 under the front seat of my pickup. There was a reason the right to bear arms was included in the Bill of Rights. Most people are far removed from that, and have forgotten what that is all about. A few weeks ago the NRA called me and wanted a donation to fight a bill that would allow the government to come to my home and take my guns. I told the guy that if someone wants to come to my house to take my guns, bring it. I haven't heard from them since.
Don't tell anyone, but I am going to break into Marty Bryant's home this weekend. Probably between 1:00 and 1:15 AM Saturday. I'm going to break the door down, take his TV, and get back out quickly. Shouldn't take more than a few minutes. I'll hit a local pawn shop and just that fast, I'll have $75 in my pocket. It's the perfect plan...
I'm madder than hell at all those lilly-livered nitwits who think they can disarm our bears!
Arming bears was guaranteed by the second ammendment and only an act of God can remove it. Maybe not even that.
You may not see many bears where you live, but I'll bet they'd be armed if they could. I see bears where I live and just assume they are armed. Why take a chance?
If Marty Bryant ran up against an armed grizzly, I'll bet he'd high-tail it back to the hole he came out of!
I must interject a warning to Mr. Anonymous. If I understand things correctly, "MB" may be loaded for bear, and you may get caught in the crossfire. Try changing your plan. I'd be willing to advise you on this venue. You might be verrrrry quiet, because "MB" probably lives in a high-class trailer that fears tornadoes like you and I fear grizzlies and Sheriff Riley. He recommended to folks that if you ever shot a burglar running out of your house, it would be wise to haul his carcass back into your domicile.
I am not worried about MB. If he tries to shot me, I'll throw a rock at him. That's a little fighting tip I picked up from watching crack Muslim fighters in "The Occupied Territory of Palestine". I would say three medium sized rocks should be enough to do the trick.
Anon. Buford T - An unloaded gun is a useless club. Anon 2 - how many times have you used the "fake" shotgun pump to get intruders out of your home? I would guess "never". Where are you coming from? Drywall is cheap and nothing gets them out of your home faster than a good shot of blazing fire and buckshot right down the stairwell. I am here to tell you that a loaded shotgun makes people think. Feel free to respond with any questions concerning this matter.
I really don't have any questions on this one for you, Marty, but just a quick comment in agreement.
There is absolutely no point in owning unloaded hand guns. If all it took was an empty gun, you would be way ahead financially by simply applying one of those stickers to your door stating that you have a watch dog, alarm or some other sort of device, and warding off would-be intruders that way. I have never before seen even one documented case of intruders being repelled by the sound of a shotgun being cocked.
On the other hand, I would be happy to direct interested readers to web sites that document literally tens of thousands of instances in which crimes were interrupted by a home-owner's gun shot.
Your goal doesn't have to be killing people to understand the value of having your gun ready for use. People who think that way are unfamiliar with guns in general. A gun is a device created with one function in mind - firing it.
Okay...I was trying to make a couple of points. 1 - An unloaded gun is of value. If you use it for say hunting, then you would NOT have it loaded in your home. 2 I think you are wrong if you think the pump action of a shot gun is not effective. While wall board is cheap, possible collateral damage (house and possible other family members) may not be so cheaply replaced.
While I have not searched for stories...I take it you think a burgler would hear a shot gun's pump action (a very distinctive noise)...and think..."Oh that's okay...I have plenty of time to grab that radio and maybe the toaster before I need to worry about the possibility of being shot. I'll get out of here in ten minutes or so."
I'm not against guns, but saying that all your guns in your home should always be loaded is questionable.
Valid points all. You don't need to keep ALL of your guns loaded at all times. This isn't the Ponderosa, after all. And all guns have value, loaded or not. Of course you're right.
I'm only wondering about the issue of the shot gun being cocked. If the intruder doesn't hear it, then what do you do? You really can't get closer and do it again. I am not sure that pointing an unloaded gun at some cranked-up out-of-control crazy guy is a good idea. He may just turn around and point a loaded one at you.
If his gun is loaded, you should probably stay well out of sight or load yours first. I think it would be better to stay quiet than to start brandishing unloaded guns.
Rick - If you have some cranked-up out-of-control crazy guy breaking into your house you wouldn't want to pull out an empty gun and face him. It's just way too dangerous. Obviously, it's best to send the wife downstairs to deal with the problem.
I had a discussion recently with Marty Bryant concerning a gun rack he was building.
It seems his wife wanted him to build a nice cabinet with glass doors that matched the furniture in the den. Marty preferred the wall-mounted rack so that everyone could quickly grab their guns and get out the door.
Most likely the last sound any intruders in Bufords house will be the distinct click noise when I take the safety off the 12 gauge, or possibly the sound of me chambering a round in my 40 cal. My guns are for protection and hunting, and Im not about to scare anyone. Law states if they cross your threshold, its open season.
I feel very safe commenting on this subject with the clientele here. I'll just back away slowly and hope my Tourette's doesn't fire up. I used to be on the comatose end of shy, but the Tourette's became a conversation piece with the ladies, kinda loosened me up. I'm thoroughly enjoying this blog, in a scaredy cat sort of way.
I don't see why everyone can't just mellow out and get along here. Guns are not the answer. We should get back to our basic ideals of free love and peace.
I think a better way to vent than buy guns would be to simply roll up a nice big reefer.
"...If all it took was an empty gun, you would be way ahead financially by simply applying one of those stickers to your door stating that you have a watch dog, alarm or some other sort of device, and warding off would-be intruders that way..."
What about a sticker that says: I have a loaded handgun under my pillow.
Free love eh stonehead. Maybe I'll remove my water fountain from the entryway, and install a water bong. Then I could surely get rid of any guns I had. I just might pass out a few of the one hitters I made back in shop class to the trick or treaters.
23 comments:
I don't pack. I wish the news would report on the many instances where law abiding citizens saved lives, rebuffed attacks or sent some culprit running because their equalizer convinced the thugs.
At one of the national school shootings someone shot or stopped the shooter. Please inform me which one.
Reagan said, "Trust, but verify."
You can call him to account or persuade a bad guy that the risk is not worth the reward.
I keep loaded guns in my home. If they aren't loaded they are clubs. When I was growing up in Iowa there were loaded guns leaning in the corner by the front porch. Here in Georgia you are allowed to carry loaded guns in your vehicle. I have a .357 under the front seat of my pickup. There was a reason the right to bear arms was included in the Bill of Rights. Most people are far removed from that, and have forgotten what that is all about. A few weeks ago the NRA called me and wanted a donation to fight a bill that would allow the government to come to my home and take my guns. I told the guy that if someone wants to come to my house to take my guns, bring it. I haven't heard from them since.
Don't tell anyone, but I am going to break into Marty Bryant's home this weekend. Probably between 1:00 and 1:15 AM Saturday. I'm going to break the door down, take his TV, and get back out quickly. Shouldn't take more than a few minutes. I'll hit a local pawn shop and just that fast, I'll have $75 in my pocket. It's the perfect plan...
I'm madder than hell at all those lilly-livered nitwits who think they can disarm our bears!
Arming bears was guaranteed by the second ammendment and only an act of God can remove it. Maybe not even that.
You may not see many bears where you live, but I'll bet they'd be armed if they could. I see bears where I live and just assume they are armed. Why take a chance?
If Marty Bryant ran up against an armed grizzly, I'll bet he'd high-tail it back to the hole he came out of!
I must interject a warning to Mr. Anonymous. If I understand things correctly, "MB" may be loaded for bear, and you may get caught in the crossfire.
Try changing your plan. I'd be willing to advise you on this venue. You might be verrrrry quiet, because "MB" probably lives in a high-class trailer that fears tornadoes like you and I fear grizzlies and Sheriff Riley.
He recommended to folks that if you ever shot a burglar running out of your house, it would be wise to haul his carcass back into your domicile.
I am not worried about MB. If he tries to shot me, I'll throw a rock at him. That's a little fighting tip I picked up from watching crack Muslim fighters in "The Occupied Territory of Palestine". I would say three medium sized rocks should be enough to do the trick.
Buford T Justice of Greene County doesnt pack, but an unloaded gun in the home is all but useless.
"unloaded gun in the home is all but useless" - Only if you have guns just to kill people.
Also, you wouldn't need a shot gun loaded. Just the sound of the pump action (of the shot gun) would be enough to rid the house of any unwanteds.
Anon. Buford T - An unloaded gun is a useless club. Anon 2 - how many times have you used the "fake" shotgun pump to get intruders out of your home? I would guess "never". Where are you coming from? Drywall is cheap and nothing gets them out of your home faster than a good shot of blazing fire and buckshot right down the stairwell. I am here to tell you that a loaded shotgun makes people think. Feel free to respond with any questions concerning this matter.
I really don't have any questions on this one for you, Marty, but just a quick comment in agreement.
There is absolutely no point in owning unloaded hand guns. If all it took was an empty gun, you would be way ahead financially by simply applying one of those stickers to your door stating that you have a watch dog, alarm or some other sort of device, and warding off would-be intruders that way. I have never before seen even one documented case of intruders being repelled by the sound of a shotgun being cocked.
On the other hand, I would be happy to direct interested readers to web sites that document literally tens of thousands of instances in which crimes were interrupted by a home-owner's gun shot.
Your goal doesn't have to be killing people to understand the value of having your gun ready for use. People who think that way are unfamiliar with guns in general.
A gun is a device created with one function in mind - firing it.
Rick -
Okay...I was trying to make a couple of points. 1 - An unloaded gun is of value. If you use it for say hunting, then you would NOT have it loaded in your home. 2 I think you are wrong if you think the pump action of a shot gun is not effective. While wall board is cheap, possible collateral damage (house and possible other family members) may not be so cheaply replaced.
While I have not searched for stories...I take it you think a burgler would hear a shot gun's pump action (a very distinctive noise)...and think..."Oh that's okay...I have plenty of time to grab that radio and maybe the toaster before I need to worry about the possibility of being shot. I'll get out of here in ten minutes or so."
I'm not against guns, but saying that all your guns in your home should always be loaded is questionable.
Valid points all. You don't need to keep ALL of your guns loaded at all times. This isn't the Ponderosa, after all. And all guns have value, loaded or not. Of course you're right.
I'm only wondering about the issue of the shot gun being cocked. If the intruder doesn't hear it, then what do you do? You really can't get closer and do it again. I am not sure that pointing an unloaded gun at some cranked-up out-of-control crazy guy is a good idea. He may just turn around and point a loaded one at you.
If his gun is loaded, you should probably stay well out of sight or load yours first. I think it would be better to stay quiet than to start brandishing unloaded guns.
Rick - If you have some cranked-up out-of-control crazy guy breaking into your house you wouldn't want to pull out an empty gun and face him. It's just way too dangerous. Obviously, it's best to send the wife downstairs to deal with the problem.
I had a discussion recently with Marty Bryant concerning a gun rack he was building.
It seems his wife wanted him to build a nice cabinet with glass doors that matched the furniture in the den. Marty preferred the wall-mounted rack so that everyone could quickly grab their guns and get out the door.
Any thoughts?
To commemorate this thread I went to Bass Pro Shop today and bought a brand new Henry 50 Cal. lever action repeater.
Most likely the last sound any intruders in Bufords house will be the distinct click noise when I take the safety off the 12 gauge, or possibly the sound of me chambering a round in my 40 cal. My guns are for protection and hunting, and Im not about to scare anyone. Law states if they cross your threshold, its open season.
I feel very safe commenting on this subject with the clientele here. I'll just back away slowly and hope my Tourette's doesn't fire up.
I used to be on the comatose end of shy, but the Tourette's became a conversation piece with the ladies, kinda loosened me up.
I'm thoroughly enjoying this blog, in a scaredy cat sort of way.
I don't see why everyone can't just mellow out and get along here. Guns are not the answer. We should get back to our basic ideals of free love and peace.
I think a better way to vent than buy guns would be to simply roll up a nice big reefer.
Rick: In response to this comment:
"...If all it took was an empty gun, you would be way ahead financially by simply applying one of those stickers to your door stating that you have a watch dog, alarm or some other sort of device, and warding off would-be intruders that way..."
What about a sticker that says: I have a loaded handgun under my pillow.
Do you think this would be effective at all?
I actually think that would work, if the possible intruders could read it.
For most of last year, I had a sticker on my door that stated "Tars Tarkus was nearby selling siding" and that kept even my parents away.
I have a sneaking suspicion that Dad may know who Stonehead is.
Free love eh stonehead. Maybe I'll remove my water fountain from the entryway, and install a water bong. Then I could surely get rid of any guns I had. I just might pass out a few of the one hitters I made back in shop class to the trick or treaters.
The only unloaded gun that's worth a damn is one that's worth a lot. Besides, guns don't kill people, I do!! lol
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